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Dear Mr. Lieberich,

I hesitated to respond to you because your text contains numerous errors, which forces me to write a rather lengthy response

1° Your "simple arithmetic" is decidedly far too simplistic.

It might, at most, be acceptable for electricity production, which accounts for 40% of emissions.

But fossil fuels will unfortunately be much more difficult to displace in so-called "hard to abate" sectors: aviation, steel production, cement manufacturing, maritime commerce, not to mention the elephant in the room: the global food system, which accounts for 34% of emissions (see the EDGAR FOOD survey by the European Commission's JRC).

2° You write: "How quickly this proceeds, and whether fossil fuels are ever entirely forced off the system, is not the point. The point is that clean energy will, within a few decades become the dominant source of energy in our economy".

I believe that all people genuinely concerned about climate warming will be rather unconvinced by your formulation: the question is precisely the one you dismiss with a wave of your hand. We must reach net zero, and reach it as quickly as possible to limit climate warming damage.

That renewables will become the dominant energy source in the future (around 2040) is likely, and this is moreover what the IEA announces. But this fact tells us nothing about the pace of fossil fuel reduction, and even less about the date of achieving carbon neutrality. The IEA forecasts a decline in coal (thanks to renewable electricity) but a high plateau for gas and oil until 2050.

3° In the next paragraph, you make the common error that many (not serious) people make: using on the climate question a conception of energy transition "in relative terms" dating back to the 1970s and more specifically to the work of Italian scientist Cesare Marchetti. If the history of the energy transition concept interests you, you can profitably consult chapters 6 to 12 of my book.

4° Your analogy with mobile phones makes little sense. You confuse technological dynamics (where substitutions have indeed occurred in the past) with material and energetic dynamics that are, aside from rare exceptions (whale oil, asbestos, mercury, and sheep's wool), cumulative. If we think in material terms—that is, in the terms that matter for the environment—a more interesting question would be whether material consumption (copper, for example) decreased with the end of the landline telephone, which is manifestly not the case. Your example demonstrates the opposite of what you believe.

5° Same series of errors in the next paragraph. « Traditional biomass » did not collapse in the developed world. I guess you have heard of Drax power plant in Britain which burns approximately 4 times more wood than Britain did two centuries ago. Even worse : I really don't know where you got the idea that human muscular power disappeared entirely (??) Not only did the number of humans increased greatly in the 20th century, but so did the number of manual workers (in artisanal mines or in construction, for example). On this subject may I recommend the forthcoming book on the history of production by my colleague David Edgerton. Moreover, what matters for the climate—namely, biomass consumption for human food—has increased enormously.

6° My book never speaks of "natural law"; I know the meaning of the word "exergy"; I know that an electron allows diverse and varied uses; I know that the electric motor is far more efficient than a petrol engine or a steam engine; and I know the difference between final energy and primary energy, thank you. You will see, for example, in chapter 2, how historiography of the "industrial revolution" tends to overestimate energy abundance, for instance around 1850, because it relies on primary energy data (tons of coal consumed at the national scale).

7° The next paragraph reproduces a simplistic vision of innovation diffusion following S-shaped curves. My book traces the origins of the use of the logistic curve in futurology (as early as the 1930s). Arthur Downing wrote an interesting text some time ago on contemporary misuses of the S-curve in the energy field. You should refer to it.

8° Electric vehicles are more efficient than petrol cars. Unfortunately, they don't grow on trees, and life cycle analyses generally indicate a reduction of about 60% of CO2 emissions per km. Progress, then, but which leaves us far from carbon neutrality. If only with this trivial example, it appears that the symbiotic effect does indeed exist. You should consult the literature on life cycle assessments. For example, Xiang Li et al., "Effect of electric vehicles and renewable electricity on future life cycle air emissions from China's road transport fleet," Energy, 318, 2025. According to the most optimistic scenario (rapid decarbonization of the electricity mix + rapid EV diffusion), emissions from land transport in China will be divided by 2 in 2050.

9° Last piece of advice: avoid criticizing a book you have manifestly not read.

Best regards,

Jean-Baptiste Fressoz.

Peter P. Breithaupt's avatar

Thank you, Michael. I’ve read the book and was indeed surprised by Fressoz’s obvious thermodynamic errors and misinterpretations. With your kind permission, I’ll refer to this (your) rebuttal on Substack whenever the book’s ‘findings’ are cited (generally by cranky uncles with petrol-hats).

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